Big guy and a hill -- Emove Cruiser 2021? Or more power?

thehutch · 2021-12-05T22:38:39+00:00

Hi. First time posting. Love ESG. I’m thinking about buying a scooter, primarily as a commuter ride. I weigh about 270 pounds, I’m 5’11”. From all the revie...

Big guy and a hill -- Emove Cruiser 2021? Or more power?

thehutch

PaulN So they posted two videos that talk about v3. I’m a little unclear on whether it will really turn the 60v into a full Ludo or if it’s like Ludo Lite. I do wonder how much a controller could do for you without a motor upgrade. I hadn’t noticed the motors were stamped with two wattages. Maybe the new motor would let you access peak wattage?

It does have some other big benefits, namely the claim that the throttle will be smooth like sine wave. It’s also supposed to introduce access via phone app that includes a lock that will freeze the wheels in place.

Here are two videos they have up (which I’m just realizing says it’s $1,000 upgrade, so I wonder if that means they’ll sell the scooters at $3,000+ now):

PaulN

my hub 😀

thehutch

PaulN Oh, I see. Right. So I guess if you have a 52 volt battery you won’t get the full experience. I’m glad I went with the 60 volt.

PaulN

thehutch I guess we will see. Be interesting to see if yours will go faster than 40 mph. Hopefully you will get yours as promised, mine was delayed several times last year until it finally was shipped.

thehutch

PaulN Got mine back in January, actually. I get it up to about 40 mph or so on flat ground, as measured by GPS. They say top speed (at least with current v2 controller) is 43. I’m sure someone a bit lighter would hit that and maybe more.

PaulN

thehutch I believe the speed has to do with the engineering of the scooter electronics itself. The number of magnets, the controller, the optimum speed of the motor where you get the the most HP without overheating the motor or its top rated rpms. Probably stability after 40mph requires a damper and a stiffer stem to avoid speed wobble.. My 60V Mantis 10 pro very noticeably, is a much faster accelerating scooter, then my Phantom. I have the P settings dialed up equally on both. The Mantis reaches top speed very quickly and it has the power to go faster but, it’s obviously electronically limited to just under 40mph. I suspect your V2 has the same “disability”, a limited top speed. I will probably sell one or the other scooters eventually and get one of the scooters I mentioned above to suit my “need for speed”. 🙂

ESG Top Speed: 37 mph (Mantis Pro), 39.1 mph (Phantom 52 V)
ESG 0-35 mph: 9.3 s (Mantis Pro), 13.1 s (Phantom 52 V)
ESG Hill Climb (time): 7.9 s (Mantis Pro), 9.2 s (Phantom 52 V)
ESG Hill Climb (avg speed): 17.1 mph (Mantis Pro), 14.9 mph (Phantom 52 V)

thehutch

Interesting comparison. That Mantis Pro is very fast off the line.

Maybe the v3 kit will put top speed up toward 50? The Ludo prototype ESG tested topped out at 48 mph, did 0-15 in 2.1 seconds and hill climb in 7.1 seconds (at 19.2 mph). Fingers crossed that my 60v will match that performance with the upgrade.

That acceleration is in the ballpark with the likes of Burn-E, Wolf King GT, Dualtron Thunder II and your Mantis Pro.

shooflyshoo

BLAZN420 You are absolutely correct! When I first got my Wolf King GT, I was worried that I bought too much scooter. After riding everyday for the past 2 month, typically 30-40 miles per day at speeds in excess of 45 mph, I am ready for more range.

BLAZN420

shooflyshoo I’m looking at getting Wolf King GT myself. I’m seeing different YouTubers calling it the GT or GT Pro is there a difference? Someone offered to sell me a used Dualtron Storm with over 4K miles is that a lot for a Dualtron?

shooflyshoo

BLAZN420 they are the same thing. There is something called a Wolf Warrior GT which is different but the Wolf King GT and the Wolf King GT pro are the same beast.

ItsAqua

BLAZN420 4k miles is a lot and which dualtron model and how much

ItsAqua

shooflyshoo they are the same I think unless it’s the wolf king which is less powerful than the wolf king GT pro.

BLAZN420

ItsAqua Storm 2k, I’m leaning towards the king GT for the sine wave controllers. I would like to slowly modulate up to 20 then rip it if I have too. I heard the storm is just full rip and hold on.

ItsAqua

BLAZN420 I would go with wolf king GT too. Dual stem are safer and better for high speeds. 2k for a storm that has 4k miles on it idk if that’s a good deal or not. I can’t say or tell because I’m not a power scooter guy. The fastest scooter I would get personally is the Bluetran lightning.

DougJones

thehutch I have just started using the Emove Cruiser S and weighing about 96kgs I have found on 1st setting it still shoots me up a steep incline at 11mph compared to 500W old scooter that I used to push with one foot. I have not been brave enough to use the 3rd speed yet but I noticed that on cruise control and changing to 2nd it gives it a hell of a kick in speed. Like putting the foot down.

BLAZN420

Have to go with a dual motor minimum 1kw each. If I were you I’d the get the most powerful scooter with the biggest battery you can afford. Running a lower powered scooter at its max power output will kill your range.

« Previous Page